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Sire Summaries

Sire Summaries By Year

Additions will be made as time permits and data is collected.

Each year Alamo Cudal uses a number of bucks. The summaries below present information on the female progeny of each buck in each year from 1998. In many cases a single buck was used over several years. These are “linking” bucks and appear first in the list. Obviously this is a work in progress and there is a lag while progeny grow out, are tested and the data analysed.

Bucks bred and used in the studs are selected on the Fineness Index as well as visual characteristics. Where available the Fineness Indexes are given for the sires used. Introduced sires do not have indexes but have usually been selected for size, fineness and visual characters similar to those sires selected from within the studs. To some extent the introduced sires are used for reducing inbreeding but there is a policy of introductions from new sources both for assessment of the source and the inclusion of new genetic material.

The first three shearings are displayed here. While some does are lost from the system before the third shearing is complete a general pattern is still observable.

Some of these figures are preliminary and there is a group of original Texan animals sires used in an AI program in 2001 who's progeny have been grouped together.

A general observation is that while there are differences between years which can largely be explained in terms of feed supply resulting in consistent moves in body weight, fleece weight and fibre diameter, differences between sires within year seem small to insignificant. This may seem surprising however considering that the females are all from the one flock and the bucks have been selected by the one person, usually from performance records, this may explain the observation. If there is little difference between sires then it would seem that the only real source of additional genetic superiority would have to come from selection on the doe side of the flock.

This is a radical suggestion and should be taken with care. As one senior NSW Agric. Sheep geneticist put it so colourfully, “Selecting ewes on performance is like pissing against Niagara Falls unless you are selecting the rams as well.” So here we have a real test of genetics in Angoras. What is the result of this selection program? How long will it take to make a difference and, what else has changed? Most breeders would claim that they are making changes but it would seem hard to prove from these data. And of course, if you don't measure anything you have no hope of demonstrating gains.

Alamo Cudal Sire Summary for 2009 - female progeny

Sires used: Viewbank Imbulu (VBK 712C) SAFI3BT=+, Cudal Neddie 25 (CUD H677) SAFI2=+50, Winder Carey (RG2 75) SAFI3BT= , Alamo Bruin 13 (CTX H855) SAFI2= +78 SAFI3BT =+

Trait VBK 712C     CUD H677 RG2 75 CTX H855 Average
n  43      55 16 12  
B wt  -      -  -  -  -
W wt  22.9     19.7 14.9 14.8  19.5
6m wt              
12m wt              
18m wt              
Flwt1              
est Yld1              
Lngth1              
Diam1              
CV1              
Flwt2              
est Yld2              
Lngth2              
Diam2              
CV2              
Flwt3              
est Yld3              
Lngth3              
Diam3              
CV3              

 

 

Alamo Cudal Sire Summary for 2008 - female progeny

Sires used: Mallee Park Ned (FGR 4147), Phezulu Fritz (PHZ B62), Phezulu Karl (PHZ B103), Cudal Neddie25 (CUD H677 - SAFI=+50), Cudal Neddie 20 (CUD H663 SAFI=+100), Alamo Marques 16 (CTX H680 - SAFI=+39)

 

Trait FGR 4147 PHZ B62 PHZ B103 CUD H677 CUD H663 CTX H680 Average
n  22  26  11  18  25  27  
B wt  3.46  3.56  3.52  3.59  3.87  3.31  3.6
W wt  17.2 13.8 16.4 16.2 15.4 17.8  16.3
6m wt  19.6 16.1 16.7 19.3 18.5 20.9  18.7
12m wt  24.2 21.8 21.2 25.4 23.5 23.9 23.5
18m wt              
Flwt1  1.1 1.0 1.1 1.0 1.0 1.1 1.0
est Yld1  87.0  88.3 87.2 88.9 88.2 88.0 87.9
Lngth1  13.9 13.7 13.2 13.6 13.2 13.9 13.6
Diam1  22.7 21.7 21.5 21.2 21.4 21.3 21.7
CV1  24.3 27.5 26.1 27.2 27.0 27.7 26.6
Flwt2  2.3 2.1 2.1 2.4 1.8 * 2.2 2.2
est Yld2  85.8 86.3 86.1 86.3 86.1 86.8 86.2
Lngth2  13.3 12.9 12.7 13.0 11.4 * 12.6 13.0
Diam2  28.4 27.2 26.4 27.5 26.4 26.2 27.1
CV2  21.4 25.0 22.4 24.7 23.8 25.3 23.8
Flwt3              
est Yld3              
Lngth3              
Diam3              
CV3              

 * More than 1SD unit from average- possibly significant though most animals from maidens

 

Alamo Cudal Sire Summary for 2007 - female progeny

Sires used: Phezulu Gregor (PHZ 1773), Phezulu Fritz (PHZ B62), Cudal Buzzie 9 (CUD H154) SAFI=+63)

 

Trait PHZ 1773 PHZ B62 CUD H154 Average
n 10 34 24  
B wt 3.7 3.3 3.5 3.4
W wt 18.4 20.2 17.4 19.0
6m wt 18.4 20.5 17.8 19.3
12m wt  25.5 30.0 * 27.3 

28.5

18m wt  33.2 36.4 34.7 35.4
Flwt1 1.4 1.5 1.3 1.4
est Yld1 87.4 87.9 87.6 87.7
Lngth1 13.4 14.2 13.5 13.9
Diam1  22.4  23.4  21.7  22.7
CV1  28.3  25.7  28.2  27.0
Flwt2  3.0 2.9  3.3 * 3.0 
est Yld2  85.1 86.8  85.3  86.1 
Lngth2  13.1 14.2  13.9  14.0 
Diam2  28.7  28.8  27.6  28.4
CV2  24.9  22.6  24.2  23.5
Flwt3  3.0  2.9  3.2 3.0
est Yld3  87.2 87.2 86.7 87.1
Lngth3  13.2 13.6 12.3 13.1
Diam3  32.0 31.5  30.4  31.3
CV3  21.0 20.3  21.3  20.8

 

 

Alamo Cudal Sire Summary for 2006 - female progeny

Sires used.

Phezulu Gregor (PHZ 1773), Mallee Park Ned (FGR 4147), Alamo Martine 6 (CTX H187 - SAFI= +61)

 

Trait PHZ 1773 FGR 4147 CTX H187 Average
n 6 39 16 61
B wt 3.3 3.6 3.5 3.5
Wn wt 16.8 21.9 25.5 22.3
6m wt 17.4* 22.5 26.0 22.7
12m wt 19.5 22.3 22.8 21.2
18m wt 39.0 40.0 44.1 42.3
Flwt1 1.3 1.6 1.6 1.6
est Yld 1 88.0 85.8 88.3 86.7
Lngth1 13.2 14.3 14.9 14.3
Diam1 22.8 24.4 25.0 24.4
CV1 29.2 24.8 24.6 25.2
Flwt2 2.1 2.0 2.0 2.0
est Yld 2 83.0 84.6 86.4 85.1
Lngth2 13.0 13.3 13.9 13.5
Diam2 23.6 23.9 24.6 24.0
CV2 26.6* 21.3 20.4 21.7
Flwt3 3.9* 3.5 3.4 3.5
est Yld3 87.0 86.4 87.7 87.0
Lngth 3 14.6 15.1 14.9 15.0
Diam3 31.5 31.3 32.7 31.8
CV3 21.7 20.5 19.6 20.4

* indicates significant difference.

Comment. Birth weights were high suggesting over feeding due to drought conditions. Weaning weights were also high, again indicating supplementation of lactating does increased kid growth. Growth to first shearing was restrained though first fleece weights and fibre diameters were somewhat exaggerated. Growth to second shearing was restricted and this was reflected in both poor 12 month body weights, staple lengths and fibre diameters. Good winter rains resulted in dramatic body weight increase to the third shearing and fleece weights were above expectation and staple lengths and fibre diameters were a little higher than normal.

 

Alamo Cudal Sire Summary for 2005 - Female progeny

Sires used: Phezulu Martini (PHZ 1768), Phezulu Futuris (PHZ A115), Phezulu Gregor (PHZ 1773), Phezulu Frere (PHZ B05), Alamo Afro Javelin (CTX D900 - SAFI=+33), Cudal Aftex Renegade 63 (CUD H038 - SAFI=+48).

 

Trait PHZ 1768 PHZ A115 PHZ 1773 PHZ B05 CTX D900 CTX H038 Average
n 30 35 22 17 15 7  
B wt 3.1 3.3 3.4 3.2 2.9 3.0 3.2
Wn wt 16.6 17.2 18.0 16.0 15.4 13.9 16.6
6m wt 17.3 17.1 17.9 16.0 19.7 16.7 17.4
12m wt 26.4 24.1 26.7 25.4 26.6 25.5 25.6
18m wt 31.0 27.2 28.5 29.3 25.4 25.4 28.3
Flwt1 1.0 1.3 1.2 1.0 1.2 1.0 1.2
est Yld1 88.7 88.7 88.6 88.9 86.8 88.3 88.5
Lngth1 14.1 13.8 13.4 13.5 13.0 13.3 13.6
Flwt2 2.3 2.3 2.7 2.5 3.3* 2.9 2.5
est Yld2 86.7 86.2 84.9 86.6 84.1 85.4 86.1
Lngth2 13.8 14.0 13.1 13.8 14.4 14.7 13.8
Diam 2 26.1 27.0 26.8 26.9 30.5* 29.2 27.3
CV2 23.1 22.4 24.2 23.4 24.2 24.3 23.3
Flwt3 2.9 2.7 3.0 3.0 2.8 2.6 2.8
est Yld3 87.4 86.2 88.0 86.8 87.1 88.3  
Lngth3 14.3 14.0 13.1 14.4 13.2 14.2 13.9
Diam3 29.6 29.7 29.2 29.8 31.0 29.9 29.8
CV3 20.2 20.0 21.8 20.6 21.1 21.0 20.7

 * indicates significant difference.

Comment.  Again birth weights were high but weaning weights were lower than desired. First fleece weights were acceptable. Body weights at the second shearing were poor and fleece weight, length and diameter were correspondingly low. Third shearing body weights were on the low side and fleece weights were a little low. This was reflected in a relatively fine diameter.

 

Alamo Cudal Sire Summary for 2004 - female progeny

 Sires used: Cudal Texan Quark 3 (CUD D026 - SAFI=+248), Phezulu Imbazzi (PHZ 1738), Phezulu Martini (PHZ 1768), Phezulu Futuris (PHZ A115), Alamo Aftex Quartz 23 CTX D709 - SAFI=+129)

 

Trait CUD D026 PHZ 1738 PHZ 1768 PHZ A115 CTX D709 Average
n 26 21 39 16 12  
B wt 3.3 3.8 3.3 3.5 3.5 3.4
W wt 16.4 17.6 14.8 14.7 12.1 15.4
6m wt 18.3 20.2 17.2 17.3 15.6* 17.9
12m wt 23.3 25.0 22.3 20.3 21.2 22.7
18m wt 30.0 32.3 29.5 26.5 24.8 28.7
Flwt1 1.2 1.3 1.4* 1.2 1.0 1.2
est Yld1           89.3
Lngth1 13.5 14.1 13.6 13.4 14.3 13.9
Diam1           21.2
CV1           28.7
Flwt2 2.3 2.5 2.3 2.2 2.4 2.3
est Yld2           85.7
Lngth2 14.1 13.2 14.0 13.7 13.7 13.8
Diam2 26.2 25.8 26.0 25.4 25.1 25.8
CV2 23.3 23.3 22.3 21.9 23.9 22.8
Flwt3 2.8 3.1 2.7 2.6 2.7 2.8
est Yld3           87.8
Lngth3 13.6 13.6 13.7 13.3 12.6* 13.5
Diam3 30.3 31.6 30.1 29.6 28.9 30.2
CV3 23.0 22.9 22.0 21.7 24.2 22.5

* Significant difference

Comment: This drop had a noticeably higher birth weight. Weaning and first shearing body weights were low as was the 12 month fleece weight indicating a poor year. The first shearing data seemed relatively normal and for the first time, first shearing fibre diameters were measured giving a low average. Second shearing fleece weights, lengths and fibre diameters were lower than expected due to the poor season. Values for the third shearing fleeces were also lower than anticipated.

 

Alamo Cudal Sire Summary for 2003 - females progeny

Sires used: Cudal Texan Quark 3 (CUD D026- SAFI=+248), Cudal Aftex Quartz (CUD D300 SAFI=+33), Cudal Aftex Democrat 10 (CUD D419 SAFI=+124), Alamo Afro Rhodes (CTX D677 SAFI=+60)

 

Trait CUD D026 CUD D300 CUD D419 CUD D677 Average
n 59 25 38 18  
B wt 3.0 3.2 3.3 2.9 3.1
W wt 19.3 19.9 20.4 12.9* 18.7
6m wt 19.2 19.5 19.7 14.3* 18.6
12m wt 22.9 25.7 24.3 19.1* 23.1
18m wt 28.4 34.9 31.7 22.9* 29.2
Flwt1 1.4 1.5 1.4 1.0* 1.4
Lngth1 13.9 13.2 13.6 13.4 13.6
Flwt2 2.3 2.7 2.4 2.3 2.4
Lngth2 14.2 13.5 13.2 14.1 13.7
Diam2 25.4 25.9 25.0 25.7 25.5
CV2 22.9 24.3 23.4 24.3 23.4
Flwt3 2.9 3.5 3.1 2.9 3.1
Lngth3 13.7 13.7 13.5 13.6 13.5
Diam3 30.2 30.9 29.2 31.7 30.2
CV3 22.8 22.8 22.5 24.7 22.9

* significant difference

Comment: Birth weights were high but weaning and 6 month body weights were low. Despite this the first shearing fleece weights were relatively high. Second fleece weights and lengths were somewhat low and fibre diameters were surprisingly low reflecting the poor body weights related to drought. Third shearing body weights were again lower than desired but this was reflected in the relatively low fibre diameters.

 

 Alamo Cudal Sire Summary for 2002 - female progeny

Sires used: Topbok Mandela (TPI 22), Topbok Rhodes (TPI 30), Cudal Texan Justice (CUD C355 - SAFI=+84), Cudal Aftex Rhodes (CUD C689 - SAFI=+96), Cudal Texan Quark 3 (CUD D026 - SAFI=+247), Cudal Afro Republican (CUD D023 - SAFI=+58)

 

 Trait TPI   22

TPI   30

CUD C355 CUD C689 CUD D026  CUD D023  Average 
 n 27 33  16  14  46  14   
 B wt  3.1 3.4  2.7  3.4  2.7  3.4  3.1 
 W wt  20.5 18.6  18.1  19.8  18.1  20.9  19.0 
 6m wt  21.0 19.7  17.7  21.8  18.9  21.9  19.9 
 12m wt  27.4 24.6  23.3  26.3  23.9  27.8  25.2 
 18m wt  30.6 31.8 25.6*  32.4  28.8  30.8  30.1 
 Flwt1  1.6 1.4  1.4  1.6  1.4  1.6  1.5 
 Lngth1  14.2 14.0  13.3  13.5  13.7  14.1  13.8 
 Flwt2  2.9 2.8  2.8  2.9  2.7  2.9  2.9 
 Lngth2  13.9 14.5  14.6  13.4  14.7  14.6  14.4 
 Diam2  30.4 29.2  28.3  28.6  28.9  29.4  29.2 
 CV2  23.2 24.0  25.2  22.9  23.9  26.6  24.1 
 Flwt3  3.1 3.1  3.2  3.0  3.0  3.0  3.1 
 Lngth3  13.6 14.7  13.8  13.1  14.3  14.2  14.1 
 Diam3  32.7 32.5  32.2  31.1  32.0  31.3  32.1 
 CV3  23.0 23.9  24.6  20.9  22.9  26.4  23.3 

* Significant difference

Comment: Birth weights and weaning weights were a little high though the first shearing body weights were not that high. First fleece weights and lengths seem to reflect the favourable early growth rates. Second shearing body weights were not high but fleece weights were good and lengths favourable. Fibre diameters were at the high end of the acceptable range. Third shearing body weights were not that high but fleece weights were good and both length and diameters were seemed to reflect the more favourable growth conditions.

 

 Alamo Cudal Sire Summary 2001 drop - female progeny

Sires used: Topbok Mandela (TPI 22), Cudal Texan Justice (CUD C355 - SAFI=+84), Cudal Aftex Rhodes (CUD C689- SAFI=+97), Syndicate of 6 original Texan imports (TI)

 

Trait TPI  22 CUD C355 CUD C689 6  TI's Average
n 24 25 34 19  
B wt 3.8 2.6 2.7 2.7 2.8
W wt 14.2 14.4 15.2 15.3 14.7
6m wt 17.9 16.5 19.4 16.8 18.1
12m wt 24.9 24.4 28.5 23.4 26.0
18m wt 28.8 27.0 36.5* 27.1 31.2
Flwt1 1.2 1.1 1.1 1.2 1.2
est Yld1       86.1  
Lngth1 13.8 14.0 13.3 13.8 13.7
Flwt2 2.7 2.8 2.8 2.8 2.8
est Yld2       83.4  
Lngth2 14.5 14.2 14.3 13.6 14.3
Diam2 29.7 28.4 29.7 28.0 29.1
CV2 22.4 24.0 24.6 23.3 23.8
Flwt3 3.1 3.1 3.3 3.3 3.2
est Yld3       85.1  
Lngth3 13.8 14.2 14.2 13.4 14.0
Diam3 32.6 32.0 33.6 31.7 32.7
CV3 22.2 23.2 23.7 22.8 23.2

* significant difference

Comment: Birth weights and weaning weights were low this year though the first fleece weight seemed to be almost normal. While 12 month body weights were a little low, lengths were normal and fibre diameters were disappointingly still too high. For the first time the third shearing body weights were taken. At this shearing fleece weights were high as were the lengths and diameters. While the Texan progeny had lower estimated yields, there was no measured effects suggesting a poorer growth rate or other differences commonly suggested for the Texan imported material. It is possible that hybrid vigour cancelled some effects though the subjective assessments seemed to reinforce the opinion that the Texan progeny "fail to do well".

 

 Alamo Cudal Sire Summaries for the 2000 drop - female progeny

Sires Used: Topbok Mandela (TPI 22), Topbok Rhodes (TPI 30), Cudal Texan Justice (CUD C355 SAFI=+84), Alamo Aftex Premier 3 (CTX C732 SAFI=+68), Cudal Aftex Chief 9 (CUD C044 SAFI=+29)

 

Trait TPI 22 TPI 30 CUD C355 CTX C732 CUD C044 Average
n 28 70 15      
B wt 2.5 3.0 2.4 2.7 2.7 2.8
W wt 14.5 14.6 14.7 11.5* 12.8 13.8
6m wt 17.0 17.3 16.8 14.7 15.3 16.5
12m wt 24.0 24.7 24.5 22.8 23.2 24.2
Flwt1 1.0 1.1 1.2* 0.9 1.0 1.0
Lngth1 13.6 13.3 13.7 12.6 12.8 13.2
Flwt2 2.6 2.5 2.7 2.7 2.6 2.6
Lngth2 13.9 14.0 14.2 13.7 13.8 13.9
Diam2 28.3 27.4 27.6 30.0 27.2 28.1
CV2 23.5 26.8 25.2 23.3 25.0 25.4
Flwt3 2.9 2.9 3.1 2.5 2.9 2.9
Lngth3 14.4 14.2 14.7 12.6* 13.9 14.0
Diam3 34.1 33.4 33.0 34.0 32.8 33.5
CV3 19.7 23.6 21.4 21.9 21.5 22.5

 * significant differences

Comment: Birth weights seemed a little low and weaning weights were very low, as were both 6month and 12 month body weights reflecting the poor year. The first and second fleece weight were also low and the second fleeces were shorter and finer than expected and the CV2 was higher than expected. The third fleece seemed to reflect the improved conditions with longer and broader fibre.

 

Alamo Cudal Sire Summary for the 1999 drop - female progeny

Sires Used: Alamo Aftex Chief 3 (CTX A910), Phezulu Afro Warrior (PHZ 766), Topbok Mandela (TPI 22), Topbok Rhodes (TPI 30), Cudal Aftex Chief 13 (CUD C095 SAFI=+24), Alamo Aftex Justice (CTX C334)

 

Trait CTX A910 PHZ 766 TPI 22 TPI 30 CUD C095 CTX C334 ! Average
n 9 40 52 39 36 14  
B wt 2.9 3.0 3.1 3.2 2.7 2.5* 3.0
W wt 12.3 15.5 16.5 20.0 15.0 9.8* 16.0
6m wt 16.8 18.8 19.5 21.9* 16.1 15.1 18.8
12m wt 24.3 27.4 27.4 31.3 24.2 24.4 27.2
Flwt1 1.0* 1.3 1.4 1.5 1.6* 1.0* 1.3
Lngth1 12.7* 14.1 13.8 14.3 13.7 12.4 13.8
Flwt2 2.2 2.6 2.5 2.7 2.4 2.3 2.5
Lngth2 13.3 14.4 14.3 14.5 13.2 13.2 14.0
Diam 2 27.8 30.5 31.4 31.0 28.6 28.7 30.2
CV2 22.5 22.1 19.9 21.8 23.2 26.8* 22.0
Flwt3 2.1 2.2 2.1 2.1 2.1 2.4 2.1
Lngth3 13.6 12.9 12.5 12.1 12.5 13.6 12.6
Diam3 29.3 31.2 32.5 31.3 30.1 31.3 31.2
CV3 21.3 21.1 19.5 20.1 21.9 25.1* 20.9

 ! indicates mating to kids, * indicates significant differences

Comment: Again weaning weights were somewhat low though fleece weights and lengths were as expected. Late spring and summer were favourable with animals gaining weight to the first shearing and weight gains to the second shearing were normal. Second fleece weights were a little low but fibre diameters were higher than expected. Third fleece weights were quite low as were staple lengths fibre diameters seemed as expected.

Alamo Cudal Sire Summary for the 1998 - female progeny

Sires used: Toolangie Sentimental Bloke 2 (SDW 951), Alamo Blaze 2 (CTX A518), Alamo Aftex Chief (CTX A910 ), Alamo Afro Rex (CTX C035 - SAFI=+102), Phezulu African Warrior (PHZ 766), Alamo Chieftan 4 (CYX C133 - SAFI=+103)

 

Trait SDW 951 CTX A518 CTX A910 CTX C035

PHZ 766

CTX C133 Average
n 39 10 37 55 8 9  
B wt 3.0 3.0 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.9
W wt 17.2 17.3 15.5 15.5 15.5 15.7 16.5
6m wt 19.3 19.4 17.7 17.7 17.8 17.9 17.8
12m wt 29.8 29.9 27.7 27.6 27.7 28.2 27.7
Flwt1 1.5* 1.5* 1.2 1.2 1.2 1.3 1.2
Lngth1 13.8 13.8 13.5 13.5 13.5 13.6 13.5
Flwt2 3.1 3.2 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.9
Lngth2 14.3 14.3 14.5 14.5 14.5 14.4 14.5
Diam2 29.6 29.7 29.6 29.6 29.6 29.4 29.7
CV2 23.6 23.4 23.7 23.8 23.7 23.6 23.9
Flwt3 2.6 2.6 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.6
Lngth3 12.5 12.5 12.8 12.7 12.8 12.8 12.8
Diam3 30.0 30.0 30.8 30.8 30.9 30.7 30.0
CV3 21.2 21.0 21.5 21.6 21.5 21.6

21.7

Comments: Weaning this year seems to have been at a light weight suggesting a poor season though first fleece weights were about normal. Second shearing body weights were as expected. Seconf shearing fibre diameters were a little higher than might have been expected but stalpe lengths were also high. Third fleece weights were below expectation though fibre diameters were about normal.

 


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